What to say when a prospective client’s first question is, “How much?”

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The phone rings and a prospective client is on the line. His first question is, “How much do you charge for [a service]?” Is this a danger sign? Should you avoid price shoppers like him?

Yes, it is a danger sign. This is someone who is no doubt calling several attorneys and comparing fees. We can assume he intends to choose the lowest priced attorney and I will assume that this is not you.

But that doesn’t mean you should automatically reject him.

Just because someone is shopping price doesn’t mean he is incapable of understanding and appreciating value. Once he sees that you offer so much more than other attorneys, even though your “price” is higher, he may persuade himself that you are the better choice.

The trick is in how you handle his question.

If the initial question is, “How much do you charge for a Living Trust?” most attorneys would answer with a dollar amount. If you do that, then what you offer is a commodity and commodities are bought and sold based on price.

Let other attorneys compete on price. You don’t sell a commodity like they do, you offer professional services and your services are unique.

The better answer is something like this: “We offer a variety of estate planning and protection packages; the attorney needs to speak to you to determine which one is best for your situation.”

You want to be different from other attorneys. You don’t want people comparing the price of your apples to the price of their apples. Get prospects into the office where you can do a complete job of diagnosing their needs and showing them benefits they won’t get from other attorneys.

You should be prepared to give callers a broad idea of what they can expect if they hire you, however. If your least expensive package is $15,000, and they have a $1,000 budget, you’ll be doing both of you a favor by letting them know.

When someone asks, “How much?” answer with a lawyer-like, “It depends.” Because if it doesn’t depend, you are selling a commodity and there will always be someone else with a lower price.

Want to know how to ask for (and get) higher fees than other attorneys? This has the answer.

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Do you offer the iPad of legal services?

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I was reading an article on why the iPad beats Android tablets. The author concluded thusly (I love that word, don’t you?), “Having reviewed the options, the reason for Apple’s continued dominance in the tablet market seems clear – it makes the best product. It also makes the most expensive product, but that doesn’t seem to deter consumers, who continue to buy the iPad in droves.”

The article points out that there is and will be a big market for Android, and many people prefer that platform for reasons other than lower price.

Something for everyone.

Now, how do your legal services compare? Do you offer iPad-ish services–high quality and high price–or Android-ish–lower quality and lower price?

You can make money in either category, but not both.

Many attorneys lean towards the lower end of the market. I suggest you resist the temptation.

Set your fees at Apple levels. High end. Then, make sure you’re worth it.

Higher margins provide huge benefits:

  • You get better clients. Yes, more demanding (like Apple’s), but better in every other sense
  • You don’t need as many clients; you can take your time and turn out a better work product
  • You can hire better talent and delegate what you don’t enjoy
  • You have a marketing budget so you can expand and grow
  • You earn more profit and enjoy a better life style.

Delivering high quality legal services does cost more. A nicer office, the best employees, a higher level of “customer service” all come at a price. But it’s not how much you spend that counts, it’s how much you earn.

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If you do this, you won’t have to join “Underearners Anonymous”

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I heard from an attorney recently who said his business is off. When I asked him why he thought that was, he referred me to a page on the “Underearners Anonymous” website that lists 12 “Symptoms of Underearning”. He claimed he had all 12.

I don’t think that’s really true and I don’t think he believes it, either. He’s blowing off steam. I know he’s been very successful in the past and his current situation is undoubtedly a temporary slump. But he is correct in looking inward for answers because even in a bad economy, many attorneys are thriving.

In today’s post, I want to talk about one of these 12 systems because I see it a lot. I’ll cover a second symptom in tomorrow’s post.

Number 7 on the list is “Undervaluing and Under-pricing’ — We undervalue our abilities and services and fear asking for increases in compensation or for what the market will bear.” I’ve done hundreds of consultations with attorneys and I can tell you that “undervaluing and under-pricing” is very common.

Charging less than you could is an obvious cause of lower income and it’s an easy fix: Raise your fees. But that’s easier said than done for the attorney who undervalues his or her services. If you don’t believe you’re worth more than you currently charge, you must first reconcile that belief with the truth.

Do your homework. Find out what other attorneys with similar experience charge. If most charge more than you do, you can assume that you can safely set your fees higher, and get it. And if you can get more, then you are worth more. Yes or yes?

What if you’re not worth more than what you currently charge? Well, then you’re not undervaluing yourself, you’re undervaluing your potential.

If you’re not worth more, charging more isn’t a good idea. You can get away with it for awhile but you will be found out, eventually. Instead, you need to increase your value. When you are worth more, you can charge more.

What about the attorney who knows he is worth more and still doesn’t raise his fees? These attorneys (and there are a lot of them) are afraid that if they raise their fees their clients will leave. And this is not without justification. Some clients will leave. A lot may leave, in fact, but losing clients is not the only thing to consider.

If you increase your fees you may lose some clients. But you can replace them with other clients who pay you more. The additional revenue from these new, better-paying clients, will offset the loss of revenue from clients who leave. Eventually, when you’ve replaced enough of the clients who leave, you’ll be earning a lot more than you do now.

You’ll probably want to increase your fees in phases. Start with new clients. They only know what you tell them and you won’t tell them about what you used to charge. As you get more new clients at higher fees, you can begin to raise fees for existing and former clients.

By the way, I said earlier that you should look at what other attorneys charge, to find proof that you can safely charge more than you do now. But be careful. What other attorneys charge doesn’t preclude you from charging more than they do, so don’t let it. But many attorneys do.

Many attorneys are afraid that if they charge more than other attorneys in their market, they won’t get hired. Well, there’s truth in that, too. If you charge more, some clients won’t hire you. But guess what? There are enough who will. And those are the clients you really want.

Set your fees high, my friend, and then do everything you can do to justify those higher fees. Give more value than other attorneys give and you’ll earn more than other attorneys earn.

If your clients say things like, “Yeah, she charges more, but she’s worth every penny,” then you know you’re doing it right.

If you want to learn how you can be worth more so you can charge more, you need The Attorney Marketing Formula.

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Another lesson from Apple: how to get clients to pay higher legal fees

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Yesterday, I wrote about Apple’s pricing strategy with the new iPad Mini. Instead of competing with other tablets for the low end of the tablet market, they’re letting other companies duke it out while they target the more profitable high end. The same is true for their entire product line.

Apple fans are willing to pay more for Apple products (and stand in line to get them) because they believe it’s worth it. They believe they get more value for their dollar.

Style is certainly one aspect. So is functionality. But more than anything, I think what appeals to Apple users is ease of use.

Apple’s slogan, “It just works,” is arguably responsible for converting legions of PC users, frustrated with complicated, buggy, and virus prone machines to the Apple brand. True or not, the impression Apple’s marketing team has created is that with Apple products you won’t have continual crashes or blue screens, and you won’t have to take a class to learn how to use it. You just turn it on and it works.

And that’s exactly what Apple’s customers want.

Well guess what? That’s what your clients want, too. At least the clients you should be targeting. They want to know that when they hire you, you’ll get the job done.

They don’t want complications. They don’t want to know the boring details. They want the peace of mind of knowing that when they hire you, they’ll be in good hands. If you can give this to them, they’ll pay you more than what other attorneys charge.

Now I know many attorneys will cynically argue that their clients are very price conscious and won’t pay a penny more if another attorney will do it for less. And that’s true–THEIR clients are price conscious and won’t pay a penny more. But that’s not true of all clients.

Didn’t the PC world say the same thing about Apple when their prices first became known? “Why would anyone pay double for something just because it’s nicer looking?”

The answer was, and still is, because “it just works.”

You can follow in Apple’s footsteps. Target the higher end of the market for your services. Show them that when they hire you, everything is taken care of for them. They won’t have to worry about getting a bill filled with surprises, or an attorney who doesn’t explain things or return their phone calls. Show them that “you just work” and they’ll pay you more. Because it’s worth it to them.

Learn how to earn more than you ever thought possible. Get The Attorney Marketing Formula.

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How do you handle wealthy clients who want to negotiate fees?

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An attorney asked for advice in dealing with a wealthy client who tries to negotiate every bill. “I really want to fire him but how do I make him understand?”

If you bill by the hour, it is not uncommon for clients to have doubts about your bill. They question whether the work was necessary and why it took so long, and even though they agreed to your hourly rate, they can’t understand why it is so high. That’s why clients prefer flat rate billing. They know in advance how much something is going to cost and there are no surprises.

Whatever fee model you use, you must help clients to see the value of what you do for them. This is primarily done in advance, before they sign your retainer agreement.

Educate them about what you do and how you do it. Explain what they get for their money and why it is necessary. Talk to them about the options and contingencies. Show them other cases you have handled like theirs, explain the time line, and tell them how much those clients paid.

Of course you must also show them what those clients got for their money. What outcomes? What benefits? How were they better off as a result of hiring you?

If you do this right, clients will see the value of what you are about to do for them and they will rarely question your bill.

What about the wealthy client who tries to negotiate every bill? Here’s my advice:

Lawyers should never negotiate fees. It sounds like you have done this with him in the past and unfortunately, this puts you in a weaker position. You have three choices.

  1. You could change your billing model. Quote him a flat rate for each matter, a monthly rate that covers everything, or a hybrid that covers much of what you do flat rate but allows for additional charges in the event of certain contingencies.
  2. You could sit him down and show him the value of what you do, as described above. Do this one time. If he is convinced that you’re being fair with him, he must agree not to question you in the future. Kiss and make up.
  3. You could fire him. Be honest. Tell him it’s obvious that he doesn’t see the value of what you’re doing for him and that you don’t negotiate fees (or will not do so in the future if you have previously). Tell him you can recommend an attorney who charges less than you do.

If a client doesn’t see the value of what you do, it’s your fault, not his. Yes, there are clients who try to negotiate everything (it’s in their DNA), but you must not give in to this. Do what you have to do to get them to see that you are worth every penny you ask (and then some) and if they don’t get it, move on.

For more on how to convey the value of what you do, see The Attorney Marketing Formula.

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Would you ever sue your own client for fees owed?

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I was asked that in an email this morning and it’s a great question. How would you answer it?

I never sued a client for fees. I don’t think I would, but “would you ever?” covers a lot of territory. I suppose it’s possible. But unlikely, at least for me. Bad Karma. Better to focus on getting new clients and especially, better paying clients.

If I considered it, I would think about things like

  • How much was owed and for how long
  • Who the client is (corporate or individual, long-time client or first time client)
  • Why aren’t they paying? Are they dissatisfied with something? Having financial difficulties?
  • What is their attitude? Contrite? Jerk? Are they ignoring me or willing to talk about it?
  • Are they willing to pay anything?
  • Could I collect if I won?

I’d also think about what I might lose if I did sue. Maybe if I cut them some slack they would pay me when they could. Maybe they’ll feel guilty and send some referrals. And maybe they will solve their immediate cash flow problem and become long-time, good paying clients.

One thing is sure, if you ever do sue a client, you can be pretty sure they will never hire you again (although it does happen) or send you any referrals.

Of course the best thing to do is avoid getting into this position. Get paid in advance or at least get big retainers, auto-bill their credit card, and never let the balance get too big (i.e., bill monthly).

At the end of the day, there will always be uncollected fees. As long as it’s a small percentage of gross receipts, I consider it an acceptable cost of doing business. If it’s not a small percentage, I know I’m doing something wrong.

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Why you should consider increasing your legal fees

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Times are tough. Clients are having trouble paying their attorneys. And that’s exactly why you should consider increasing your fees.

When times are tough for your clients, you also feel the pinch. But your overhead keeps increasing, doesn’t it? At some point, some of the services you offer will no longer be profitable. “We lose money on every client but we make it up in volume,” is an old joke. But some attorneys don’t understand, the joke is on them.

What would happen if you raised the price on those services? You may lose a percentage of your clients, but the increased revenue from your remaining clients would provide a profit on every “sale”. And if you lose more clients than you expect, you will have more time to do more (higher paying) work for other clients.

True, you may not have other clients to fill the gap right now, but you will have more free time for marketing so you can bring in new clients, something you may not have time to do right now.

And you may find that you don’t lose many clients when you increase fees. Prices for everything are going up these days, so to some extent, your clients expect you to follow suit.

When an airplane loses cabin pressure we’re told to put the oxygen mask on our mouth first. Once we’re out of trouble, we can help the people next to us. It’s the same thing in a law practice. If your practice is in trouble, you won’t be around long to help your clients with their troubles.

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Attorney-to-attorney referrals video replay: learn how to “mine your practice for gold”

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This morning, I participated in a video discussion about attorney-to-attorney referrals. The featured guest was Los Angeles personal injury attorney, Lowell Steiger, who maintains a popular attorney referral Facebook group. Our host was attorney Mitch Jackson, who hosts a variety of interviews of interest to attorneys on his Spreecast Channel.

We started off discussing how attorneys can dip into their client database to find cases they can refer to other attorneys. We talked about the mechanics of making those referrals, how to protect your referral fees, and how to make sure secondary referrals from your clients come back to you.

In addition, we talked about referrals from clients and other professionals, and shared other tips for getting more referral.

Got to this page to watch the  replay of, “Mining Your Practice For Gold”. I’d love to hear your comments about the interview. Please post them on the blog.

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Could you charge more for your legal services? Here’s how to find out

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Could you charge higher fees for your legal services than you charge right now?

What if you could get paid one-third more than you now get without losing any business. Wouldn’t that be cool? Or, maybe you might lose some business but increase your net income because of the higher fees you are paid from everyone else. Also cool.

Most attorneys set their fees by looking at what other attorneys in their market charge. They don’t want to charge a lot more or a lot less so they play it safe. But some attorneys do ask for more and they get it.

True, these higher paid attorneys may have more experience or a higher-profile reputation. They might offer more value to their clients. Perhaps they are better “sales people” or have more chutzpah. Maybe they took a chance when quoting fees and got lucky.

The point is that some attorneys get paid more than other attorneys for doing essentially the same work. What if you could, too?

There is a way to find out if you could charge more. No, not by asking your clients or prospects if they would be willing to pay more. They have a certain, um, bias, don’t you think? No, if you want to find out if people are willing to pay more you have to charge more, and see if they pay it.

But hold on. Don’t raise your fees across the board just yet. That’s too risky. You don’t know if this will be successful. What if you ask for too much and lose too many clients? Not good. Conversely, what if you don’t ask for enough? Your clients may pay ten percent more without flinching, but how do you know they wouldn’t have paid twenty percent more?

The answer is to test higher fees with small groups of clients and/or prospects and measure the results.

Pay-per-click advertising is a great way to do “split testing”. Basically, you quote one fee to the first inquiry and a higher fee to the second. You alternate quotes until you have a meaningful sample of responses and clients. With enough responses, you’ll be able to see which fee is producing (a) the most clients, and (b) the highest income.

Pay-per-click advertising has become extremely expensive and you might not want to use it as an ongoing marketing tool. But for short term testing purposes, wouldn’t it be worth it to find out conclusively that you could safely charge a lot more than you do now?

If your practice isn’t amenable to advertising, there are other ways to test fees with smaller groups of prospects. If you do seminars, for example, you could quote every other attendee a different fee. Or quote different fees at every other seminar.

The results of price testing are often surprising. You would think that charging higher fees would decrease the number of sales (clients) but that is not always the case. Sometimes you sell just as many at the higher price. And sometimes, believe it or not, you sell more at the higher price.

But you’ll never know unless you test.

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Should attorneys list their fees on their web site?

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Do you post your fees on your web site or in your ads? Some attorneys do; most don’t, but should they?

Of course for many legal services, it’s nearly impossible to quote an accurate fee without more information. So we say, “it depends,” and encourage the prospect to call. In truth, most people don’t call, because they are intimidated or don’t want to listen to a sales pitch or be told they have to come into the office.

But if you charge a flat fee for a given service–incorporation, bankruptcy, real estate closing, living trust–should you list those fees up front? If you charge by the hour, should you post your hourly rates for the world to see?

Let’s think this through together. . .

PRO: Posting fees lets prospective clients see if you are “in the ballpark” of what they can afford and are willing to pay. Theoretically, you’ll get more clients hiring you who might not take the time or trouble to call to get an actual quote.

CON: Quoting fees invites price shopping and creates pressure to compete on price, which is a slippery slope for any attorney because there will always be someone “cheaper”. And, do you really want clients who are merely looking for the lowest price?

You could say, “fees starting at. . .,” or, “fees range from X to Y, depending on the complexity of your matter. . .”. This gives the prospect an idea of what to expect and may be an acceptable compromise for your practice.

Indicating the fees you charge with any degree of specificity may not be something you want to do, or can do, but that doesn’t mean you should avoid the subject completely.

If you charge flat fees, explain why the client is better off knowing in advance how much they will pay, in contrast to the open-ended nature of hourly fees. If you charge by the hour, explain why the hourly rate isn’t the only factor, that while they can probably find an attorney who charges less per hour, that attorney’s comparative lack of experience may wind up costing the client more. Explain how contingency fees work to the advantage of the client. Explain costs and retainers and trust accounts.

In addition, you can help prospective clients to appreciate the value of what you do by explaining how fees are determined, the information you need to know (and why), and the options and possible outcomes their case may entail.

When you are open with prospective clients about the subject of fees, they may be more inclined to trust you, at least enough to make that call to find out “the bottom line”.

I’d like to know what you think and what you do in your practice. Do you post your fees on your web site? Do you explain how your fees are determined?

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